Ready for .htaccess

[Justin]

Just to confirm, you are right. I have been meaning to do that to mine, too, so I just did it. Works good.

[Justin]

Only if an application developer spends extra effort, time, money, etc. will the Open/Save dialogs allow this type of file name.

Just for information, it is good Windows programming practice to use the Common Dialog control, which is a part of Explorer, for your Open/Save/Print dialogs. There are several reasons for this, one being that when the user upgrades to a higher version of Windows, your program will take on the newer look seamlessly. For example: Windows 2000, a.k.a. NT 5.0, will have auto-complete features, as well as "Most recently used folders" in the common dialog, and if an older, Win9x app ends up looking like a 9x app, it will be left in the dust. Remember those 3.x apps that didn't look right when you upgraded to 95? The one's with white-background windows (instead of using system colors)?

Common Dialog is a part of Explorer, which comprises the desktop, control panel - anything that is a window and is part of Windows is Explorer.

Another thing about the Common Dialog is that it takes on all settings, like mapped drives, etc., automatically, things that a programmer may not be able to predict when designing an app. Besides, the whole common look and feel associated with Windows apps is a good thing IMHO. Learn one program, the rest feel the same.

And the common dialog doesn't support a .foo type of filename. I really don't see it as a big deal either - just rename it.

One other point: DOS doesn't natively support .foo filenames either. Only when running with Windows will it do that - the actual DOS filename becomes FOO~1 with no extention. I just tried it.

Justin

[Benson]

Thanks, Jacob, it works great. Mighty stern looking FORBIDDEN message it shoots out too!

[Justin]

Oops - the Windows Common Dialog does support .foo filenames. I thought I was going to have a problem experimenting with .htaccess locally, but my own text editor (CheapPad) does, in fact, support .foo filenames (same DOS rules, FOO~1, though). It uses the Common Dialog. Windows Explorer will allow the filename, but it will not let you name a file like that from within Explorer.

Weird, huh?

But anyway, I guess Notepad itself doesn't support these filenames - so I would assume that a programmer would have to put in more effort, time, and money in order to NOT allow a .foo filename

BTW, the Forbidden message can be changed too:

ErrorDocument 403 /Go_Away.html

Mine's 403.shtml.

I'm wondering, what happens if you include a file within itself:

<!--#include file="test.shtml" -->

within test.shtml? I'm not going to try it on FQ, but I might try it locally...

-- ten seconds later --

[an error occurred while processing this directive]

Had to try...

Justin
-- Good thing I'm not a cat --

[Del]

For 'the definitive word' (or something) on ErrorDocument redirects, check out http://www.apache.org/docs/custom-error.html That's straight from Apache on how to customize your errors.

When you're all done reading that, poke around the rest of their manual too. There's a lot of neat stuff in there! A good page to start with is http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/directives.html . Just remember that not everything listed there is available via .htaccess though, only the ones that specificly say they are.



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Del
www.downinit.com

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[Terra]

OFF Topic: 3 messages snipped...

--Terra

[Justin]

Ok, I get bored and made a small tutorial on .htaccess on the FQ server, if anyone wants to critique it. http://www.vdj.net/htaccess/

Remember, this is my first attempt at a tutorial, and I plan to add to it if anyone likes it. It's just to kill time, I guess, so let me know what you all think

Sorry for going too far off topic earlier

Justin
-- Back on track --

[Justin]

http://www.futurequest.net/Tutorials/htaccess.shtml




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Justin Nelson, SFE Inc.
http://www.vdj.net

[Armand]

I've read the tutorial and the messages here, but have a question.Can you turn off indexing only certain directories. Would like to turn off indexing on certain directories but not all.

<Suppose I could just create a redirecting page instead titled index.html for those I don't want indexed as an alternative if not possible>

**heading over to the Apache documentation might be a good idea huh?**

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Armand (aka Joe)
joe@arcanumcafe.com
www.arcanumcafe.com

[This message has been edited by Armand (edited 02-18-99).]

[Del]

You can put an .htaccess file in every directory if you really want to. If htaccess supported the <Directory> stuff we wouldn't need to, but it doesn't (probably not very secure methinks).

Del