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Old 09-16-2003, 01:24 AM   Postid: 95661
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Verisign: all your typos are belong to us

I will keep this rather short as I'm a bit fumed right now...

Some of the words I'd like to say cannot be found on my keyboard...

http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg13603.html

Let's see what the Joe-Bob Briggs Drive-In totals are:
1) shred a few RFCs Enron style
2) mute out the internet
3) put together a TOS that only Microsoft could envy
4) wear an innocent Alfred E. Neuman face while saying we will never self-promote ourselves
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4) Profit!!!

and for those that love conspiracy theories:
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg13652.html

I'm sure there will be plenty more!

Let the lynching begin...

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Old 09-16-2003, 01:49 AM   Postid: 95669
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I believe this is the problem Terra is referring to.

http://www.haque.net/verisign_dns_rant.php

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Old 09-16-2003, 02:18 AM   Postid: 95675
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From Randall's link:
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Among the other protections that spam blocking software employs, one method to block spam is by blocking messages that appear to be sent from non-existent domain names. This feature magically stopped working tonight, as there is no way for a domain name lookup to fail.
Verisign's white paper is kind of technical, but doesn't it say that it will take 15 minutes before they do their wild card processing? I don't know how anti-spam software is usually written, but I know that there is a Perl module used to get web pages and it times out by default after something like 3 minutes, and that default time is typically shortened. Is it really necessary for spam blockers to try to resolve an address for over 15 minutes per try?
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This response is dramatically different from what is called for in VeriSign's own Implementation documentation. Instead of returning a 550 error code for our example domain, the mail server continues with a positive, 250 OK response.
Sounds like VeriSign would be willing to fix that problem if it was brought to their attention (emphasis on Sounds).
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"We assure you that the information we gather from you about your visit is in aggregate form and solely for the purposes of operating and improving the performance of our Site Finder."

To the contrary, there is no doubt in my mind that individually identifying information will be collected as part of an active monitoring and archival system, once again, as disclosed by VeriSign themselves in the Implementation document.
This refers to personal information passed through URL's, which doesn't happen when you're dealing with a reliable website/business. The danger of passing information through a URL deals with hackers and, if you're breaking the law, law enforcement, not Verisign.
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Old 09-16-2003, 02:30 AM   Postid: 95678
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This article casts it as a fight between VeriSign, AOL and Microsoft. Ho hum.

http://www.bizreport.com/article.php?art_id=4929

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Old 09-16-2003, 02:51 AM   Postid: 95680
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Re: Verisign: all your typos are belong to us

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Let the lynching begin...

NANOG is still trying hard to figure out what Versign is smoking

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Can I please please please hold the rope?

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Old 09-16-2003, 01:55 PM   Postid: 95706
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The only way we're realistically going to fight this is a Class Action Lawsuit. If I had money for a lawyer, I'd be looking into starting one right now. Their actions are monopolistic and an invasion of privacy, to just START listing off what they need to be smacked down for.

This is HIGHLY unacceptable.
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Old 09-16-2003, 04:56 PM   Postid: 95739
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:52 PM   Postid: 95862
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Terra, you might be interested in this article entitled "BIND developer blocks Verisign Net grab move:" http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/32873.html

It's not ideal and I don't know how many sysadmins are running the latest version of BIND, but it's one way of dealing with Verisign w/o having to call in the suits

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Old 09-18-2003, 04:44 AM   Postid: 95924
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Until something better comes along, try this.

Make a new master zone to your dns server. "sitefinder.verisign.com" Or if you are really ticked, just "verisign.com". But don't add any A address or anything else.

It seems to work. The latest Mozilla will pop up a box saying "Can not find sitefinder.verisign.com" but IE and some other browsers give general DNS errors. Looks the same from a user point of view.

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Old 09-19-2003, 02:41 PM   Postid: 96117
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